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Felicity

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PostSubject: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:15 am

Anyone have experience of false rig or stallionlike behaviour in a gelding and how best to handle it?

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PostSubject: Re: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:31 am

the most reliable thing is to have the vet do a blood analysis, this will say if the behavior is hormone related such as a retained testicle/part of one etc or not.

if it is a hormonal related problem there are treatments, but even so it can take a while to level out.

if it is not then it is behavioural, if so you have a lot of 'fun' to come, it could be he was gelded recently and is still feeling some of the 'effects' or he was gelded later in life after he 'learned' to be a stallion.

he could simply be a naturally dominant character, the colt most likely to be lead stallion in a wild herd!

whatever the reason i would try to keep his lid on, keep mares away in season or not, if he fights the other boys keep him apart from other geldings, perhaps just by adding a line of electric fence to partition him off a bit of field?
if he is fit= work him, cut any hot food out as much as you can.

& FOR GOODNESS SAKE BE CAREFULL many people underestimate how quickly or violently an entire can react, something you can't possibly detect can set them off, they have an acute sence of smell & danger, far more sensitive than most geldings.

As someone who had a fractured skull & was almost killed by a MARE with hormone problems who thought she was a stallion (due to a ovarian cyste) take it from me, be carefull.

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PostSubject: Re: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:45 am

Global Herbs do rig calm and I have only heard good about this product.

I use Terent Hispanica for my alfa Male Stallion, it lowers the level of testosterone in the body, the results have been so staggering that my vet is now recommending it to people.

You can get it for the pharmacy, get 30ch, 10 on the first day, 5 each day for a week, then one a day for a week, then one 3 times a week.

I have so got Roddies hormones under control that he only has it if we are competing somewhere new.

Salee, is quite right about the behaviour, just have eyes in the back of your head, when was it cut? Was exactly is he doing?
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PostSubject: false rig/stallion like behaviour   Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:40 am

i would be interested to know what exactly he does, and in which circumstances he does it, is it possible to discribe on here please felicity.
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PostSubject: Re: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:20 pm

Thanks everyone for the tips.

Tristar, he has been very possesive over mares to the extent of attacking other geldings violently and feels the need to see where the mares are all the time and to be as close to them as possible. He hasn't tried to cover them at all. I thought it was seperation anxiety at first when it was just one mare but I don't think so now.

What is your take on it?

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PostSubject: Re: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:11 am

At livery yards the mares and gelding are split to save this sort of thing happening. Have 2 fields mare and geldings. He is probably trying to assert himself as alfa male.

I know a man who know's your horse I will make a call for you, to get more history.
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PostSubject: Re: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:17 am

Thanks Horseybird, much appreciated.

He has been carrying on the same even when the mare he likes has been seperated from him for a while, only by electric fence though.

I think you and Pen are right that it is a dominance thing because now that my alpha male horse has asserted himself he's a lot calmer.

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PostSubject: false rig/stallion like behaviour   Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:56 am

hi felicity, i was interested because never had this problem, if he mounts the the mares i would be worried, or seriously attacks, teeth and heels, i would find out his history, i would never put two strange horses together or in a field with others, any new horse i would isolate to make sure it's got no illness's, then put next to another horse in stables so they can chat , and observe their attitude, later in a field separated by electicity and if all goes well ride them out together etc, and then put them in the field, it takes as long as it takes, putting strange horses in an estabished herd can provoke incidents to see who i boss, its only natural in herd animals, i have known serious accidents happen between strange horses, and as always i would restrict feed to the minimum levels, no rich grass, so they are occupied with eating not clouting each other! the other comments offer lots of courses of action so hope it's all resolved soon best wishes.
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PostSubject: Re: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:16 am

Hi Tristar, like you I saw an awful accident at one yard I was at where someone's beloved horse was actually killed [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] . I was furious with the yard owner at the time and have always been meticulous in NEVER putting a new horse with others and ALWAYS following the procedure you have mentioned.

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PostSubject: Re: false rig/stallionlike behaviour   Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:00 am

Time..................................................... flower
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PostSubject: false rig/stallion like behaviour   Sun May 02, 2010 2:33 am

hi felicity, after the last post i remembered about a large cob gelding who showed these tendencies, he would mount the geldings, also he attacked a mare and foal 2 days old being led to the field, as they went passed he reared up like a great monster demolished 4 strands of barbed wire and attacked the foal, the mare ran off and the person holding the foal beat and kicked at him and managed to get the foal back to the stable, the foal was well scraped and the persons leg was trodden on and bruised, he really meant it, the owner of the cob said he had done things like before, just shows to watch out if they show these unusual tendencies.
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